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Pas de larmes pour Joy

Titre original : Poor Cow
  • 1967
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  • 1h 41min
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Terence Stamp and Carol White in Pas de larmes pour Joy (1967)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most ... Tout lireA young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most important to her.A young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most important to her.

  • Réalisation
    • Ken Loach
  • Scénario
    • Nell Dunn
    • Ken Loach
  • Casting principal
    • Terence Stamp
    • Carol White
    • John Bindon
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,8/10
    2,2 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Ken Loach
    • Scénario
      • Nell Dunn
      • Ken Loach
    • Casting principal
      • Terence Stamp
      • Carol White
      • John Bindon
    • 36avis d'utilisateurs
    • 18avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    • Récompenses
      • 2 victoires et 2 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux55

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    Terence Stamp
    Terence Stamp
    • David 'Dave' Fuller
    Carol White
    Carol White
    • Joy
    John Bindon
    John Bindon
    • Tom
    Queenie Watts
    • Aunt Emm
    Kate Williams
    Kate Williams
    • Beryl
    Laurie Asprey
    James Beckett
    James Beckett
    • Tom's Mate
    Ray Barron
    • Customer in Pub
    Hilda Barry
    • Customer in Pub
    Ken Campbell
    • Mr. Jacks
    • (as Kenneth Campbell)
    Ronald Clarke
      Ellis Dale
      • Solicitor
      Gladys Dawson
      • Bet
      Terry Duggan
      • 2nd Prisoner
      Winnie Holman
      • Woman in Park
      Rose Hiller
      • Customer in Hairdresser's
      John Halstead
      • Photographer
      Doreen Herrington
      • Réalisation
        • Ken Loach
      • Scénario
        • Nell Dunn
        • Ken Loach
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      Avis des utilisateurs36

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      60's realism well worth a look at!

      Loach's film attempts to depict the sorry life of Joy, a young woman involved in the shady world of criminals and petty crime. How sorry one can feel for Joy is debatable as it is a life she has freely become associated with, first through her marriage to Tom and later, when Tom is imprisoned, through her relationship with his mate, Dave. What is so interesting about the film is the settings, Loach's realistic style and the naturalness of the key performances. Having an almost documentary feel about it - the (possibly unintentional) intrusion of the boom mike in one scene adds to this style. Also the street scenes of the kids playing in an alley comparable to a "20 yard toilet" could have been filmed in any run-down working class tenement block of the sixties. The film itself had a raw energy, especially when Joy is searching for her son amongst the demolished houses. Loach manages to present a realistic portrayal of working class urban life during 60's Britain which is well worth a look at.
      7richardchatten

      Never Marry a Thief

      Beginning with an eye-watering sequence depicting the birth of Carol White's baby boy. Thanks to director 'Kenneth' (as he was then billed) Loach's restless camerawork (punctuated by Godardian captions) the sixties here sways rather than swings in a film that manages to encompass nearly a century of British film history through the presence in the same picture of both Wally Patch and Malcolm MacDowall (not to mention future sitcom stars Kate Williams and Anna Karen); and it's apt that over thirty years later scenes from this of the young and saturnine Terence Stamp strumming his guitar were employed as flashbacks in 'The Limey' (1999).

      Although it didn't seem like it at the time, we're now nearly twice as far from the sixties as the sixties were from the thirties. Life at the bottom of the heap remains as bleak in the twenty-first century as ever, and continues (doubtless to no one's regret more than Loach himself) to provide him with plenty of material. In his eighties he doesn't seem able to retire just yet.
      9craigjohn-1

      Set in 60's London. Working class girl's desperate voyage through relationships

      One of the best of the 'kitchen-sinks'. Fantastic views of London and invaluable snippets of working class life of the 60's. Loach's eye seems to capture everything, yet makes no judgment - a taste of things to come. As with 'Kes', 'Riff-raff' and 'Sweet Sixteen', it serves as a cinematic social history of Britain. Carol White is completely convincing, you love her, fancy her, want to take care of her, but hold your head at her self-destructive decisions and still follow her in some vain hope. Well backed up by Terence Stamp, ( fresh off 'The collector', also catch 'The Hit' ) and a plethora of English faces ( all looking very young ). Pefectly set to Donovan's dulcet tones. Stamp sings 'Yellow is the color', in a lovely scene, ending with him saying, " Getting better, ain't I " ( song also used in 'The rules of Attraction' - I think ) Watch Carol Whites screen mum getting ready to 'go out and get a bloke', putting on her false eye-lashes to the sound of 'Rosie' on the radio - priceless. A treasure for anyone who was around at the time and a reminder of how good life is now in England. Incidentally Soderburgh used clips from 'Poor cow' in 'The Limey'.
      6Leofwine_draca

      Loach's slice-of-life debut

      As mentioned elsewhere, I've been getting into the 'kitchen sink' dramas of Britain in the 1960s. Previously I've watched a handful of the early black and white ones, but POOR COW, the first film from long-time director Ken Loach, offered in a new wave of all-colour pictures that eventually heralded the way for the miserable likes of EASTENDERS and other soaps that came later. POOR COW is a product of its era and it shows, and that's what makes it interesting.

      The film is in essence the story of a young mother and her kid and their attempts to get by in a cruel and often harsh world. Carol White achieves level of naturalness in her performance that you don't often see, which means that she's utterly convincing. The male characters are presented as brutes, philanderers, or simply bland, cold men who don't care about the impact they make on people's lives. There's plenty of talent in the supporting cast, a lot of faces who would go on to become familiar on TV and in film, which makes this a fun watch despite the gruelling subject matter.

      The thing I found about POOR COW is that it kept me watching. I was always interested in finding out the outcome of the story, although any viewer will immediately realise that it's not going to be a happy ending. I was interested to note that the interlude in which White gets involved with a group of dodgy glamour photographers seemed to inspire a whole sub-genre of films directed by the likes of Norman J. Warren and Pete Walker. Apparently many of the scenes in the film were ad-libbed, which accounts for the slice-of-life realism of the piece.
      7cooked

      Social reflection

      Not a film of entertainment, but of real lives & limited ambition for the working class in 60's. Enjoyable because of my upbringing, not sure it'd work for most people. Typical Loach. Full of TV actors/actresses of 70's/80's/90's.

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      • Anecdotes
        According to Terence Stamp, the film was mostly improvised and first takes were always used. Two cameras filmed simultaneously to capture the spontaneity of the performances.
      • Gaffes
        The apostrophe is missing from the caption "At Aunt Emms.".
      • Citations

        Joy: Yeah, don't forget to get me some nice sovereigns, gold ones.

        Dave: Oh, I'll try love. You know, not always made to order.

      • Versions alternatives
        The BBFC website states that the original version had some sex references that were cut before its release in the 1960s. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/education-resources/student-guide/bbfc-history/1960s
      • Connexions
        Edited into L'Anglais (1999)
      • Bandes originales
        Be Not Too Hard
        Music by Donovan and Lyrics by Christopher Logue

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      Détails

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      • Date de sortie
        • 16 juin 1969 (France)
      • Pays d’origine
        • Royaume-Uni
      • Langue
        • Anglais
      • Aussi connu sous le nom de
        • Pobre vaca
      • Lieux de tournage
        • Fulham Broadway Underground Railway Station, Fulham Broadway, London, Greater London, Angleterre, Royaume-Uni(cafe interior opening credit sequence)
      • Sociétés de production
        • Vic Films Productions
        • Fenchurch
        • The National Film Finance Corp.
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      • Montant brut mondial
        • 15 709 $US
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      Spécifications techniques

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      • Durée
        1 heure 41 minutes
      • Mixage
        • Mono
      • Rapport de forme
        • 1.66 : 1

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