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Flesh and Bone (2015)

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Flesh and Bone

70 opiniones
9/10

Moving and very well done

People writing bad reviews based on their dance past may have a point, but might be viewing this from the wrong perspective. Yes the show is about a ballet company, but it tells a story, more than one actually and even if there are clichés in it, that's called dramatizing the story.

What is being told here could have used any background. Look at 'Mozard in the Jungle', that setting could have fit too. Yet, finally someone takes courage in making a beautiful show with ballet as background. Shouldn't you people be proud of that instead of pissing on it?

For me, I love ballet, but that's not only the reason why I'm watching and I never really leave reviews here, but reading from 'ex-dancers' I thought it felt unfair how the show was being reviewed. The acting is very good, esp. from the lead, the dancing imo is good enough to fool the audience and it's the whole vibe of the show (the way it's shot, the music) that sets a really pleasant tone to watch it. I am kinda sad there aren't more episodes, yet.

So, watch it, don't judge too soon and enjoy it. It's like reading a good book!
  • treborquest
  • 10 nov 2015
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9/10

Sit back and binge

  • Br4ve-trave1or
  • 8 nov 2015
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8/10

Compelling, absorbing, and really good

"Dark side of the ballet world" stories are always pretty intriguing, and "Flesh and Bone" is the ultimate take on that concept. I was thoroughly hooked from the first episode, but with each subsequent one, new twists were revealed that made the wait for the next episode (because, y'know, life gets in the way of TV-watching) interminable. I couldn't wait to see what would happen next.

I have a high tolerance-- and appreciation-- for twisted stories. This one, even by my standards, is super dark. Part of what makes it that way is that the darkness isn't contrived-- it isn't like these people are fighting literal demons or enduring the apocalypse or something. Instead, several of the characters are dealing with fascinatingly complex emotional stuff that motivates all their behavior, all their choices, and provides an understandable context for behavior that would be incomprehensible if it weren't for that. But you DO understand it, and there are numerous moments when you watch what a character is doing and think, "wow, something is really, really wrong with you."

This is helped along by very good acting. I've seen varied reviews on the acting, but I found it extremely impressive, especially when the actors were sometimes given material (i.e., dialogue) that wasn't necessarily the best. Sarah Hay as Claire is terrific. She is not only a technically skilled dancer, but she shows the vulnerability and toughness that this character needs to carry the show. She's completely believable in the role-- and I have to say, having looked her up, I love that one of her few acting credits is for the "Mary-Kate and Ashley's Ballet Party" video (when she was much younger). Given how skillfully she handles the screwed-up material of this show, it's kind of delightful that she got her start in an Olsen Twins video.

People have talked about how good Ben Daniels is in his role as the guy in charge of the ballet company, and he is, but I want to talk about Josh Helman, who plays Claire's messed-up brother Bryan. There's a moment, toward the end of the season, when the father smacks him, and he turns to him with a look that sent an actual chill down my spine. I watched that moment three more times just for the pleasure of seeing acting that good.

Damon Herriman in the role of Romeo, the homeless guy, is very good too. I didn't love this character conceptually, but it was Herriman's acting that made it work for me. The "homeless guy living in an aesthetically pleasing little fairy den on the roof" thing is not exactly believable and vaguely insulting, and when you add in the "mentally ill guy as prophet" aspect, it's even harder to love. But that's not Herriman's fault, and he gives the character a vulnerable appeal that I could appreciate.

The only thing I really found fault with was the final episode. I should have seen those resolutions coming, but it drew attention to how the whole "fairy tale as allegory for Claire's story" aspect was clumsily written all along. I get what they were going for, but in order for it to work, you had to buy into the idea that 1) all these people would let Romeo get that involved in their personal lives and that close to their physical selves in the first place, no matter how obviously crazy he was, and 2) agree that Claire was not complicit in her own problems to some degree, when-- I'm trying to avoid spoilers here-- the show had been asserting the idea that she was. There are plenty of moments when Claire is presented as a victim of her circumstances, but there are lots of others where she goes out of her way to keep the fire of those problems burning. Which is psychologically interesting, but makes it so that when Romeo sets out to be her champion, I thought, jeez, if you're so perceptive about people and their lives, shouldn't you have noticed that Claire is causing this guy the same problem he's causing her?

Overall, though, the season was more than enjoyable. I was sorry that it ended in so few episodes, because the conflict was good enough for a season three times as long.
  • ariake76
  • 8 ene 2016
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10/10

Like nothing I've seen before.

I rated this show based on how the first season of it made me feel.

There are people complaining that the show about ballet doesn't have enough ballet in it. How short-sighted of them.

This show is not about ballet. It is about its protagonist - Claire. Or Clementine, as she's passionately nicknamed by an eccentric supporting character.

This is a show about inner darkness, and Claire striving to find a way out of hers.

With its spectacular cinematography with a carefully muted color palette, with the rich, dramatic, beautiful soundtrack, the whole thing has this surreal, almost David Lynch-like feel to it, it is filled with pathos, emotion, drama.

We are shown scenery and people, but we are made to see feelings.

There's nudity in the show, but it is not just thrown in "because they could". It is clearly part of the vision. People's emotions get stripped raw, and sometimes, so do their bodies.

I don't like pretense. I snub my nose at "Sundance Festival winner" type films. I don't like long pointless stares, long shots of swaying grass, camera angles that linger too long for no discernible reason - that sort of thing.

This show can be on the surface mistaken for a pretentious one. It could've gone that way very easily. For example, a long ramble of aforementioned supporting character could've been seen as a pretentious scene-filler - but, the actor is exceptional, and, like in David Lynch's surrealism, it all makes a certain kind of emotional sense.

The soundtrack doesn't just clank in background to match the tone of a scene. Like the camera, the music here is an actor with a voice of its own.

It feels like a part of a deliberately painted picture. It's not what the characters say or do, but why they're driven to it.

All of the cast are picked perfectly, and they feel real. Claire does not seem like an actress playing a role. She's simply Claire. It's hard to believe that the actress wasn't already Claire before the filming even started.

This show transports you into another world. It is an emotional journey, a rich atmospheric drama. It makes you feel what the protagonist feels, if you let yourself open to it.

Compared to this work, "Black Swan" is a pretentious flash in the pan. There's something grand here at play.

Let it play.
  • temporaldisturbance
  • 11 nov 2015
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10/10

Bravo

The series deserves a standing ovation, it's a masterpiece.

Each episode got better and better, the final episode was breathtaking. It's a dark, disturbing story on all fronts, but so compelling. The acting is very good, the characters are fully developed - faults and all. The score is amazing, the sets are beautiful and it's filmed in such a way that you feel you are there watching. I didn't expect the show to be so captivating, and it actually took a couple of episodes before I felt invested in the series, but each episode built upon the prior, and the series will drawn you in. While watching the final episode, I began to understand the story itself was like a ballet performance - beautifully executed in a tragic sort of way. The final ballet is amazing, and worth watching the entire series just for that.

It seemed some critics panned the series - but in my opinion, it's a masterpiece - the best of the best. If you liked Black Swan, Fame, Flashdance or other similar themed movies, I think you'll find Flesh & Bone as amazing and enjoyable as I did.
  • Cyndy08080
  • 5 ene 2016
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10/10

Blown Away

There are very few shows that do something so rare that to capture it on camera is dazzling. This is one such show. In most shows acting is enough, and of course it's an art all in itself but nothing like this. This is a true ballet show where they don't fake the dancing. It's breathtaking in its complexity and a beautiful masterpiece when it all comes together.

The thing that makes this such a fantastic show besides the dancing is the story behind it. They incorporate a level of darkness which you almost never see on the screen. And when you do it's almost instantly fleeting. Not in this show though, they made it perfect. It's got such a resounding Janus feel to it, that it can be best described as daunting. Hat's off truly 10/10.
  • Tactrix
  • 9 nov 2015
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9/10

A dark psychological thriller - with dancers!

Although this series is very dark and gritty, there's some interesting issues brought to life here. I felt like this never gave into stereotypes, featured some marvelous dancers, and gave the women in this show some really meaty parts.

I have seen some bitching about it not being feminist enough, which is baseless. The men in the company serve mostly to fill out the company. Which makes sense really, this is NOT a show about ballet - this is a show about our main character, Claire, and her messy and dark life.

I wouldn't recommend this for anyone under 18, mainly because of the deeply dark subjects that are explored in the show. The nudity and sex is part of life, as a former dancer I definitely relate to the dancers not being modest. But I guess many people are still very prudish in 2015.

I really enjoyed the show, from the beginning to the very end it kept me very entertained and dance shown is gorgeous - not surprising as it was choreographed by Ethan Stiefel!!!

Sadly, it seems there won't be a second series - so I guess I will have to re-watch the first series.

If you're ready to dive into the darkest secrets and ugliest parts of a character (this is no rom-com), then you'll be very satisfied with Flesh and Bone.
  • sanfrancisco_art
  • 20 nov 2015
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6/10

Artistically pleasing but thin story and characters are quite dull

  • warren-levin
  • 7 dic 2015
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8/10

Cutting deep

Ballet is like an obsession. If Black Swan did teach us one thing then it clearly was that. And the show that ran for a season on Starz is clear in its intentions to be a somewhat spiritual successor or at least in the same ballpark. Having one of the dancers from that movie playing the main role here is a start. And Sarah Hay learned Ballet as a young girl, something you can tell by watching her move (though I'm not sure if you can tell more as the teacher/director and some others seem to be able to).

So with a limited knowledge of the art itself, I can say that it is riveting and it looks phenomenal. But the show also dares to explore darker themes and backstories of the characters. You may be able to guess the connections between them (or rather their relationship), but there will be surprises along the way.

If you don't mind complex characters, blood (sweat) and nudity (including lewd acts as some might proclaim), this is really interesting. The character journey is really something and while you can guess to a certain extend where this is heading, the performances make it more than worthwhile
  • kosmasp
  • 9 may 2019
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7/10

Wasted opportunity

My real problem with this show is the fact that the scriptwriters or whoever is responsible for the dialogue here, feel the need to make these dancers as vulgar as fraternity boys. I worked for many years in the dance world (in the 1970s) as a dance critic for newspapers in Chicago, San Francisco and Massachusetts, as a publicity director for a modern dance company in Chicago and as company manager for the San Francisco Moving Company, and as a writer I was very happy to work in a world of intelligent, refined people who were interested in literature, fine music, theater and all the other arts. I never heard the sort of low language that mars the sensibilities of this show. I never experienced such vulgarity and lowbrow mentality as displayed by many of these characters. Ballet and modern dancers are dedicated artists who work in an atmosphere that is on a higher plane than what is found in baseball or football locker rooms or army barracks. The creators of this show do a great disservice to the world of ballet and contribute only to the general dumbing down of America. I don't remember even Walter White in Breaking Bad delivering the sort of vulgar lines the artistic director of this ballet company spews out. What a shame. I will continue watching it for the beauty of the dance alone.
  • mattof7-1
  • 9 nov 2015
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8/10

Showgirls (1995) re-imagined and repaired

The year was 1995 and Joe Eszterhas, the top of writer of the day for mainstream exploitation films, released (unleashed) his most exploitative script of all time -- Showgirls.

At the time, it seemed like a slam dunk. It had something to push everyone's buttons. It was about strippers. It had dancing and sex. It had backstory. And just as additional insurance to guarantee greatness, the casting director deliberately picked the female star of a popular teen sitcom for the leading role -- guaranteeing a "shock" factor as the world watched a sweet teen icon go down the darkside.

It should have worked but it didn't. The mass audience, the gestalt, seemed to belatedly develop a conscience and punished the film, presumably, as payback for all the earlier works of of Eszterhas' they enjoyed but probably shouldn't have.

A major TV comic talking about the film (which was a flop within weeks of release) said "I haven't seen so many poles abused since WW2."

Ironically 20 years later, with TV in full-on stratification and everyone with a video camera offering a new series, the writers of Flesh and Bone have taken the ideas comprising Showgirls and fixed them and repaired them.

It is exploitative but does not make you feel guilty.

Pretty good TV.
  • A_Different_Drummer
  • 25 dic 2015
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Written by drug users or a teenage writing class

This is so bad that it's literally laugh out loud funny. The dialogue of the Ballet director queen is predictably ridiculous and unreal. Every aspect of this show is predictable because all you have to do is just picture the dumbest direction the scene could possibly take and there it goes.
  • big_kmc
  • 8 may 2017
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6/10

'Too much' sums it up

This series has precious ingredients in the form of actual acting ballet dancers, which could have led to a beautiful, delicate series, but they botched it with being too much. It's such a shame.

The script is drama overkill, the acting of some actors is like that as well. And I don't think that's because of the actors in most cases, I think that's more a choice of the director.

Portraying the narcissism of the ballet company founder for instance is so over the top, it becomes kind of ridiculous. If you want something that portrays art, you at least want it to feel real, right?

Then there is the lead actress who, for me, was out her depth with this role. Her storyline is heavy, but her emotional acting pallet seems too limited to pull it of. I couldn't feel what she was trying to tell me. You see an introverted woman that has trauma, but that's about it.

I will give this show a six, and that's just mainly for the dance-acting production. Which I would love to see more of. But done better.

Where you can feel a real ballet atmosphere.
  • marijdevos-70906
  • 20 ago 2022
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3/10

A melting pot of randomness!

Firstly, the series was visually quite impressive. That about covers the positives, as the rest was, in a nutshell, insanely weird. The show includes a million different story arcs thrown in, all at the most inopportune moments. What would have been really successful, by looking simply at the competitive nature of top level ballet, was totally poisoned by unnecessary background plot nonsense. Ben Daniels stood out as the tyrannical ballet school founder. His performance was the only real convincing part in this incredibly frustrating piece of television. If you want an uncomfortable, out of body experience, check out this series.
  • Tommetfactory28
  • 6 ene 2019
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9/10

Bravo!

What a beautiful and breathtaking series ! Enjoyed every minute of it. The acting is superb. The story is so sad, yet so beautiful. The dancing is amazing. The story goes deep and I think one has to know a little bit of life to appreciate it. Sometimes life is not like Modern family, but about disrupted families. What I especially love about the story is that no one is really good or really bad. That 's why I like the role of Romeo so much, half an idiot, half a philosopher. He seems to be speaking nonsense but in fact he's great. Hope there will be a second season; there is a lot more to say about Claire and ABC. I feel this was just the beginning. Compliments, bravo!
  • linda_dekruijff
  • 18 nov 2015
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9/10

Binge Watcheable!

  • dreamgavino
  • 9 nov 2015
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8/10

A Beautifully Choreographed Series

  • reebee-z
  • 8 nov 2015
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10/10

Episode 1 review

This is a short review of episode one.

Flesh and bone follows a young girl who runs away from home and comes to New York to join a ballet company. She witnesses how cruel and unforgiving ballet world can be, and what you have to do, to be on top. Sarah Hay who only has one acting credit to her name, plays this young ballet dancer named Claire and puts an amazing performance. Not to say that the rest of the cast is mediocre, but Hay is amazing. Watching the show you feel bad for her, she does not understand everything around her, and if she wants to make it in the ballet world, she will have to lose her innocence. We do not know a lot about her past, but can assume that he had a hard life. Everyone around her seems to have an agenda of some sorts. She is hated just for being new, I think the show depicts life accurately; it is a cruel and dark place.

Also, I am not a big fan of ballet, but I can say that the dancing shown is amazing as well, I keep praising the show, but I do have a minor problem, everyone is really mean, even though that is realistic depiction of the world, I think the show takes it a bit too far. The show has a lot of profanity and nudity, you might think that it is normal for a premium cable program, but I did not expect it from a show about a ballet dancer. Some people will hate this show, and some will absolutely love it.

All in all, I did not want to spoil the show too much. I did not expect the show to be so amazing; everything from directing to acting is brilliant. The music in particular stood out. I am afraid that not a lot of people will check this show out, because it is on a premium channel. At least give it a chance.
  • airidass
  • 9 nov 2015
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7/10

Interesting...and surprisingly so

Claire leaves home to audition for the American Ballet Company. Three years ago she was a promising ballerina but then gave it all up for personal reasons. Now she's back and wanting to make her mark. She soon discovers that behind the beauty and artistry it's a cutthroat business.

I'm not sure why I watched this. I'm not into ballet (though can appreciate the artistry and dedication involved) but something about this intrigued me.

To my surprise, I liked this. The story is very interesting, showing what goes on in a ballet company, the dedication involved, the luck and heartbreak involved in getting a spot, the behind-the-scenes pressures and machinations. Quite engaging too as we follow Claire and a few other characters.

Far from perfect though. The story often gets bogged down in superficial, pretentious melodrama and some of the sub-plots and lesser characters aren't that interesting.

Overall, quite watchable.
  • grantss
  • 23 ago 2024
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8/10

Heavy on the cliché but entertaining.

  • plex
  • 27 nov 2015
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6/10

I just don't know...

I'm watching it now ( i know a bit late) and i just don't know what to think.. I liked the first 2-3 episodes, but after that it just started to lose my attention. I don't really like or understand the (side) stories (but that could be just me) and honestly there are times where i skip them forward, because i think it's a bit boring or unnecesarry. For me the dancing looks good, but i'm not a dancer, so i can't really say anything about it. Right now i'm at episode 7, but i'm not sure if i will finish it, if i do i probably skip a few scenes :I I have to be honest in the beginning i was a bit annoyed with some of the acting, it's definitely not bad, but i don't know, it's not awesome either in my opinion. But i have to say after a while i got used to it and the some of the characters even grew on me.

With all of that said, it is absolutely not a bad show, but i just don't know...
  • Jessie_1
  • 22 jul 2020
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10/10

Encore.....Bravo, exhilarating and brilliant

  • zendatrim
  • 10 jul 2017
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A Work of Art, in and of itself. Flesh and Bone is a masterpiece.

  • spongebobcheer
  • 20 jun 2016
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6/10

realistic ? not

I have been dancing for 50 out of the 54 years on this planet and was so excited to see Flesh and Bone . Unfortunately what could have been an opportunity to push past the sheer awfulness of "Dancing with the stars" has been squandered for salaciousness . While there is a healthy dose of competition in the dance world, By and large Dancers do not behave this way .Certainly no dancer would hit their already injured toe with a pointe shoe and if you want to know the truth the real back biting comments should come from the teacher, c'mon Tova ! put some of that fire you used as Daniell Melnik on "Law and Order" !The bright spot of this new drama though is the dancing It's good It's real and It's lovely . Some of the producers must have been former dancers as the dance casting is excellent . I wish Elizabeth Benjamin (producer/writer) on Bones US of Tara Un Real and other shows would be brought on to help with the dialogue we went to North Carolina School of the Arts together and could bring some real gravitas to the weak script. I plan on watching the season and you should too.
  • kinetic6
  • 16 nov 2015
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2/10

What the actual f@&k

  • giannac25
  • 21 dic 2015
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